Maximus Raider
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Post by Maximus Raider on Mar 30, 2007 18:45:36 GMT -5
I was thinking it might be a good idea to indicate what classes or skills pertain to what faction or nation. We have the basics down such as technology, magic and the combination of the two. An example of this already is alchemy, it is well thought out and gives everyone an idea of what to expect.
For Lucia the magic so far is based on the elements, including that of light and dark. Shussei sticks to generic skills, such as guns and melee weapons of a modern sort, not sure what exactly is within the realm here. Robotics?, I guess electronics or something along those lines. Bremelia has it made, they have alchemy, but they also have technomancy which i find to be appealing. Perhaps people who create a unique skill, that could be reasonably common should have a section to describe there class. just a thought, and it would help give people ideas.
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Post by Kagirinai Akki on Mar 30, 2007 22:03:11 GMT -5
Thoughtful and backed up; I'd expect nothing less from you, Maximus.
It is done. There is now a Class section beneath Hybrid in the Lore section
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Post by Varlyn Drake on Mar 31, 2007 3:57:34 GMT -5
The point of Bremelia is that whole 'jack of all trades, master of none' philosophy. Or as Isus puts it, Moderation, with that big, scary, capital M. The only Moderation I know of is the Moderation we'll be having to do to make sure someone doesn't hail from Bremelia who has a fully cybernetic body and godlike magical powers. Eugh. That's off topic, but let me just tell you how wrong you are, Maximus. Haha, no, I'm mostly kidding, but let's be serious for a minute. It's a decent idea, having a class description in the Lore section, but let's just stop and think: Almost any class that will really need describing will, one way or the other, due to the continent you hail from, already fall under "Technology", "Magic," or "Hybrid." I was always planning on writing up a Technomany article under the 'Hybrid' section, now I don't knwo whether to do it in Class or Hybrid. So, really, it's a great idea, but we don't need a new board. I'm not going to go back and just delete Kag's, but let's get an opinion: Do we REALLY need another Lore section? Let's just describe our classes in the stuff already given. We've got enough boards as is. Damn site takes forever to scroll through on my cell phone, anyway.
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Maximus Raider
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Post by Maximus Raider on Mar 31, 2007 9:27:20 GMT -5
Alright then how about Instead of having a class section all on its own, we add a sub section to the three categories you previously indicated. So people have a decent spot to add there class. This way it is well organized and the admin can adjust or limit the characters accordingly.
For example weapons specific to a nation, such as a sniper rifle. A limitation set in place for this weapon is, it can't be automatic, but unless you read a certain persons profile nobody would know. A class that would use this weapon would be an assassin, This would go under the class sub section. So people can look at all the classes and perhaps see what they could be skilled at and then look at the previous section and get a better understanding of what weapons they would be proficient at and how they can use them.
I agree though it would be best to intergrate classes with the three catagories in site lore "Technology", "Magic," and "Hybrid". I like to propose a concept we can all agree on then simply shut them down!
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Post by Kagirinai Akki on Mar 31, 2007 10:59:06 GMT -5
As for adding a sub-board to a sub-board, that's a no-go, Max. I like the idea, though, of posting class-specific strengths and weaknesses as well as powers and/or tools (such as weapons) that each class is proficient at.
The Magic, Technology, and Hybrid sections are for the technical usage of each specific area whereas the class section is where we make note of where each is most effective. It's kind of early for me right now -- I had a long night -- so I'm not quite sure what I'm saying makes much sense, but at least it is something to discuss.
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Post by Maximus Raider on Mar 31, 2007 12:01:59 GMT -5
I think I understand what you mean. We have the class section to outline all the different character types, but they arent necessarily particular to any nation. For example the assassin or warrior. But they are limited to certain technologies or skills depending on what nation they choose. A warrior could use a finely crafted glove that impliments sonic waves, for increased impact or they use basic gloves and have an element for support such as earth to add impact. As for the assassin, they would have access to an assortment of technology, like solid snake or they would be more along the lines of a ninja and impliment there magic to there benefit, perhaps like naruto or something along those lines.
I hope thats what you meant and I think it helps clarify things and give people some ideas.
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Post by Isus Jarode on Mar 31, 2007 13:14:55 GMT -5
I gotta say that I side with Varlyn on this; the Class fragment of the Lore section is rather redundant and unnecessary, as we should use the Technology, Magic and Hybrid sections to describe such things.
For example, I posted an explanation of my character's art known as Alchemy. Therefore, it's actually a description of Alchemists themselves, but is more specified toward the core of their class, rather than "what weapons they should use," and "how they should act." These things should be left to the writer to figure out, as long as they follow the basic details of a certain group.
I mean, really, how can you explain a general description of an Assassin or Warrior that isn't already a knock-on-wood knowledge? We all know what an Assassin is, and any limitations of such a class if it followed the Shussei following would already be covered by looking over Technology limitations. Therefore, someone who wishes to be a technological Assassin would look to the Technology section, look over what weapons and device limitations they have, claim themselves something based on their own opinions, and then post it.
If you require a description of a certain class, post it in the fragment of the Lore section that it fits best with. Having a "class" section only confuses things.
Besides, I'd rather see a "Class Description" section of a bio sheet than an entire thread area. That'd make things alot easier.
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Post by Chazz Lorenzo on Mar 31, 2007 13:31:54 GMT -5
Having limitations based on a class is far too much like stats for my liking. Each faction already has their limitations, and the only possible reason I could see needing to explain your class is if you make it up, in which case it'd be covered in your bio sheet. However, things like "Warrior" and "Mage" can have different ideas behind the terminology, depending on whatever the character specializes in, and I'm not going to be the one who says "Sorry, you're a Warrior, so you can't use a bow. That's reserved for Rangers." because I have a different idea of what a Warrior is compared to someone else.
Anyway, the lore we have now is taking long enough to fill in as it is, there's no need to make more work for something that should already be covered in your bio.
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Post by Maximus Raider on Mar 31, 2007 13:50:15 GMT -5
I can live with that, but so everything is clear a character's skills, weapons and technology will be described in the lore section. So if they are to use a sniper rifle that is to be shussei only, and what limitation on such a weapon are set in place. This would also apply to any magic or hybrid skill such as alchemy.
We leave the class description up to the player and in the bio, but we regulate what they are allowed to utilize and what limitations are based on the nation they choose. I think thats what i get from this and if thats the case i am completely fine with that.
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Post by Isus Jarode on Mar 31, 2007 13:53:30 GMT -5
Practically, if you think your class needs a description of such in a certain section, then feel free to post it, so long as it is well written and organized. That's all we ask.
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Post by Mashiro on Apr 1, 2007 17:47:47 GMT -5
I only skimmed the second half of your guys' post, simply because most of you (John) talk too much for my impatience.
But I dont know about all of you, but I'm kind of sick of all this lore. Some sections I already find tedious such as races and religion. If someone has a certain religion, it should just be posted in their bio if its a large enough factor for that character. As far as Races go, I thought we were all human besides the special permissions we may grant in the future.
This isn't aimed for Kagri the god-like vampire, but for all others coming in if they want to be a monster or something, they need to get permission from that particular section of where they are coming from. I personally, won't allow anything unless I make it so within a thread.
So boo, no more lore!
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Post by Isus Jarode on Apr 2, 2007 16:01:46 GMT -5
You're such a bloody Conservative, you know that? Oh wait, my apologies, Libertarians, they're the ones that don't want involvement of a governing body at all... right. And I must say Tyler, you're losing your touch, since everything we posted was rather SMALL.
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Post by Mashiro on Apr 2, 2007 16:15:50 GMT -5
If its over two short paragraphs then its not short.
Especially if its over somethin I say "NAY!" to.
NAY! Nay I say!
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Post by Kagirinai Akki on Apr 3, 2007 0:04:07 GMT -5
Seems like Tyler has turned into a horse... So much for the race-restriction to humans. *kicks hay toward Tyler with an eye-roll*
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Post by Chazz Lorenzo on Apr 3, 2007 13:36:46 GMT -5
I'm just glad I'm not in Bremelia. Isus writes too much for me to read it all.
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Post by Isus Jarode on Apr 3, 2007 18:44:39 GMT -5
I'll find that ironic: a third-rate nation that is dominated by two superpowers will have a far better literacy rate than a dominating Magic Nation and a highly advanced Technology Corporation. You people make me laugh.
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Post by Mashiro on Apr 4, 2007 15:52:48 GMT -5
That's cuz you're a jackass.
Thats why.
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Post by Isus Jarode on Apr 4, 2007 17:03:28 GMT -5
That's cuz you're a jackass. Thats why. I don't think it helps things that good ol' Ryan is for the Umberland people either, Mr. "cuz you're a jackass."
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Post by Mashiro on Apr 4, 2007 17:07:29 GMT -5
So I'm not as uptight. I'm still richer than you.
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